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  1. Spurlock

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    “I understand, as I am a fan, clearly you want to win on the pitch,” he said. “But we have been trying to look at this slightly differently, in that we want to make sure we ensure an infrastructure here to stand the test of time.”


    Zero interest in building a winning team...if it comes off as a side note then that’s nice.

    There is no other way of looking at football...ultimately we watch it for what is happening on the grass.
     
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    The thing about building a winning team is you also have to be able to afford to not just build but also maintain it, rather than spend big one day and leave the maintenance costs for another day - which fans of Leeds, Portsmouth, Gretna, Dnipro, Anzhi Makhachkala are only too familiar with
     
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  3. Spurlock

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    We just need about £100 mill from somewhere...wether we like it or not, I think we need some financial doping...not massive numbers in today’s climate. I believe it is possible. Not this selling to buy policy or wasting what little we have on future prospects...but that’s ENIC for you and Levy is more or less admitting it

    I don’t believe we would do a ‘Leeds’
     
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    I see we've moved on from the Narrative that said that we should follow Saltypool's lead and sell the family china, as they did alright after selling Coutinho

    ...which forgets how ****e they did after selling Suarez, let alone the two more obvious examples in our recent history after selling Keane & Berbatov and selling Bale
     
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    So when Levy says that as a fan he clearly wants to win on the pitch you translate that into zero interest of building a winning team. He is trying to make us into the English version of Real Madrid or Bayern Munich or Juventus by building a stable long term infrastructure that's the best out there. Spending another 100m doesn't make the chance of success much higher.
     
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    More from the minutes...
    • Concerning the situations of other player contracts, Daniel Levy said that it wasn’t possible to make a anyone sign a contract if they didn’t want to. Some players have been at Spurs for a long time and want to pursue new opportunities elsewhere
    • Daniel Levy felt it was important to look at each individual circumstance. Players want new challenges. It wasn’t always about not wanting to play for Tottenham any more
    ...but no doubt some boneheads on Twitter are suggesting we take a the Xi Jinping approach to contract signing
     
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    Which suggests he’s known about it for a long time therefore he should have got rid when he could have fetched a sum for these players...however for some unknown reason(actually it’s Greed so not unknown), DL seems to put pathetic price tags on players...wanting Coutinho money for Eriksen when he’s into his last year. Infact not only him..even some fans were expecting an unrealistic sum for Eriksen...why would it be any different for us?

    For someone who’s sat in the driving seat...he seems damn naive when it comes to player valuations.

    He forgot to look at the individual circumstances of a manager under his tenure who has us at the top...but now we’re slipping.
     
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    I still don't understand why anyone thinks Levy is responsible for player valuations. That would make no sense. He is the negotiator so will try to buy for lower than the valuation or sell for higher. The valuations themselves should come from the coaches and the scouts.
     
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    How is that ridiculous though? The Sheikh Mansour Team paid £49m for Raheem Sterling when he was in the final year of his contract, and that was before transfer fees ballooned to the ridiculous level they're currently at, so it's not like we're the first club in the history of football to slap a massive fee on a player entering the final year of his contract
     
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    A couple of Prime Video matches on there.
     
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    Also on Amazon Prime...



    Can't think why that came to mind
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    There's some good news at last: The Wheel of DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM is no more

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  14. PowerSpurs

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    Saracens massively fined and a huge points deduction for breaking salary cap rules. Not good for us as they might ho bust.
     
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    Of course this is as close as the Premier League will get to a team with a heavy Middle Eastern influence getting a points deduction for FFP violations...
     
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    Over £5m? Can't we just buy them and have a bunch of their games at our place? Make that back in no time.
     
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    I want the Wasps!
     
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  18. PowerSpurs

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    Their turnover is only £17m and they have made a loss of around £2-3m for most of the last five years, leaving them with equity of £2.5m in their last accounts even after their investors wrote off £50m of debt. So they look bankrupt after that fine. They seem to own their stadium though and are planning a 25m redevelopment.
    I can't see them filling our stadium or even close except possibly for matches against Harlequins or Wasps and European Cup matches. But it's a loose change amount for Levy to buy them unless there are covenants attached to the debt right-off.
     
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    A big issue is whether key players will stay (given some seem to have
    been the financial beneficiaries of the "creative accounting" ) .
     
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