Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

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  1. yorkshirehornet

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    A number of our family of all ages have health conditions and some have been fully shielding.
    Having analysed all the science and the new guidelines there is no way I would support my family loosening their self protection.. The risk is way to high.. Higher in fact than when we started lockdown.
    Thr Govt have clearly decided for non medical reasons to ease restrictions as the NHS csn cope. So it is not safe... just we have enough hospital capacity for people getting ill and potentially dying.. Shocking...

    Think wisely friends.....
     
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    Not sure that the figures are correct, but serious questions about policies in the UK need to asked.
     
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    Truly incredible that Brexiters are so desperate for something to cheer, that a car plant remaining exactly as it is, is being heralded as a massive Brexit bonus.

    Btw Nissan have stated they intend concentrating on other markets and not Europe. Which leaves the sustainability of Sunderland largely in hands of Renault. A no deal outcome sees a 10% tariff on the cars they make, of which around 70% are exported to mainland Europe. So let’s see what transpires when that reality hits.
     
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    Public trust in the UK government as a source of accurate information about the coronavirus has collapsed in recent weeks, suggesting ministers may struggle to maintain lockdown restrictions in the aftermath of the Dominic Cummings affair.

    According to surveys conducted on behalf of the University of Oxford’s Reuters Institute by YouGov, less than half of Britons now trust the Westminster government to provide correct information on the pandemic – down from more than two-thirds of the public in mid-April.

    “I have never in 10 years of research in this area seen a drop in trust like what we have seen for the UK government in the course of six weeks,” said the institute’s director, Rasmus Kleis Nielsen.

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  7. yorkshirehornet

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    I dont think anyone can refute that poll... someine on here delighted to quote yougov to prove themselves right a while back more than once...
    The people have spoken!
     
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    Q. How many people have been contacted by the new tracing system?
    A. I don't have any figures. But it is a lot.

    Does Hancock really believe that this sort of information is enough to fob off the population? Some might think that it would sound very good if he gave out some figues., unless of course it wasn't a lot.
     
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    Hancock says that 111 deaths is the lowest since the lockdown began.

    Monday 25 May - 59

    Sunday 31 May - 85

    Even the 111 is not accurate unless you change the method of adding historic deaths. 445 that had not been reported has been added to yesterdays figures, rather than todays which has been done in the past.

    We now have gone past 39,000 deaths when 20,000 was going to be a good result. Have we got to the rather more than a poor result yet? Wonder what the number needs to be for a bad result?
     
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    Update: following hospital data today, a cautious estimate of the number of UK excess deaths linked to coronavirus up to 1 June is

    64,000

    Of these 59,572 have happened and the rest are estimates
    --Chris Giles FT

    Hang your head in shame Johnson. It is no wonder that the UK is getting the tag of Plague Island.
     
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  11. superhorns

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    I thought you were too scared to look at opinion polls in the last few years. Enjoy the polls while it lasts, the Tories are already rebounding in popularity.
     
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    Hancock says taking local action is “an incredibly important part of the toolkit”. It could involve stopping new admissions to a local hospital.

    The joint biosecurity centre would provide advice to the chief medical officers, who would advice ministers.

    Q: Does the joint biosecurity centre actually exist? It has no website, and has published no reports.

    Yes, says Hancock. He says it is being set up at the moment.
     
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    It has taken three months, but Spain has a day with no deaths. No wonder they don't want tourists from the UK.
     
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  14. superhorns

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    Us Brexiteers had a good chuckle about Nissan closing plants in the EU to save the more productive Sunderland site. Many whinging remoaners had wrongly forecast the closure of Sunderland with some glee. Presumably to teach those Geordies a lesson for backing Brexit so well. The Tynesiders clearly backed their productivity and quality against those in the EU.
     
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    Sums up the difference between people like you and people like me. As you have just admitted to finding people losing their livelihoods funny, solely because you think it makes some facile point that backs your idiotic ideology.
     
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    No, I just found it funny remoaners getting it wrong again.
     
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    I note you completely swerved the main part of my post about the future of the Sunderland plant. Funny that, but also #standard for your sort, who simply ignore anything that doesn’t suit your twisted agenda and clap like seals at massive ‘successes’ like a business staying as it is - for now.
     
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    I think it would be far more interesting to know if SH agrees with Johnson or the person who he has often talked about as being a great parliamentarian Peter Bone. Bone is quite clear that Johnson should sack Cummings, but it would appear that that Johnson, for whatever reason, is frightened to do so. Perhaps SH would like to discuss the two opposing opinions, and say why Johnson is leaning so heavily on a disgraced advisor.
     
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  19. superhorns

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    As there will be a10% tariff on EU cars in the event of a no deal it is understandable that car manufacturers will want to concentrate on the UK market by producing here. This will also include the numerous supporting companies being located in the UK instead of the current vulnerable supply chains. There will also be many tariff free deals with a host of other countries. This will increase the attraction for cars from Asia rather than from the EU. The Germans must be extremely worried as their cars might become priced out of the market in the UK.
     
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  20. superhorns

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    The issue is over, nothing to discuss.
     
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